I welded this lap joint with my lincoln idealarc this time wired correctly, I think I was using AC at around 100 amps, 6013 rod, pictures at end, second picture I think I got less penetration, these welds are being done to my latest project a ghetto shifter cart, its not gonna look very good, but it will be built well and will be very fast, I am puttin an air cooled 175 cc engine (2 stroke) in it, when completed a video will be posted, I expect to have it completed in under 2 weeks, we will see how it goes, stay tuned!!